The Original Plumley Article
Basil L. Plumley was drafted
into the U.S. Army as a Private (Pvt) and went on
Active Duty (AD) 31 March 1942.
Pvt Plumley Army Serial Number (ASN) was 35425274
and he joined Battery B 320th Field Artillery
Battalion (Btry B 320th FA Bn), 82nd
Infantry Division (82nd Inf Div) 5 April 1942.
Plumley went through basic
training for 8 weeks at Camp Claiborne, Louisiana.
 Upon graduation was promoted
to Private First Class (Pfc) 19 June 1942 with his
Military Occupational Specialty (MOS) 345 listed as
Pfc Plumley was promoted on 25 July 1942 to
Technician 5th Grade (T5) with the same MOS.
15 August 1942 the 82nd
Inf Div was converted to the 82nd
Airborne Division (82nd Abn Div). The
320th FA Bn converted that day as well to
the 320th Glider Field Artillery Battalion (320th
Gli FA Bn).
Pfc Plumley was promoted once
again 1 April 1943 to the rank of Corporal (Cpl) and
his MOS had changed as well to 761 Scout.
The 320th Gli FA Bn set sail on
29 April 1943 to Casablanca, Morocco arriving 10 May
The 320th Gli FA Bn then moved to Kairouan, Tunisia
9 July 1943.
Operation Husky commenced 9 July 1943 with the
entire 82nd Abn Div committed minus the
320th Gli FA Bn, 325 Gli Inf and Company A (Co A) 307th
Airborne Engineer Battalion (Combat) (307th
Abn Engr Bn (C)) which stayed at Kairouan, held back
Btry B 320th Gli FA Bn arrived
by Ship 23 September 1943 landing at Paestum, Italy.
The 320th Gli FA Bn entered into combat for the
first time in WWII at 1108 hours 17 October 1943
during the Naples-Foggia campaign. The 320th Gli FA
Bn was attached to the 3rd Inf Div
Artillery (Arty) north of Volturno River in Italy.
The 320th Gli FA Bn reverted back to the 82nd
Abn Div 1 November 1944 and returned to Naples.
The 320th Gli FA Bn left
18 November 1943 sailing to Belfast,
Northern Ireland and arriving 9 December 1943.
Cpl Plumley went on furlough for 5 days starting 3
February 1944 while the Battalion was in Camp
Monrush, Cookstown, Northern Ireland.
The 320th Gli FA Bn moved to Husbands, Bosworth
England preparing for Operation Neptune (Normandy).
Cpl Plumley's MOS 761 remained the same going into
Normandy. Scouts would search out locations for
emplacements for the 105mm Guns.
While researching Plumley the
following narrative was created;
The Life and Death of 2nd
Lt Jesse Elmo Stewart, 29 May 1944 to 6 July 1944.
The short life of Second
Lt) Stewart is a perfect example of the differences
between Paratroop, Artillery and Airborne.
Using the 82nd Abn Div as the example everyone is
Airborne, but not all are Paratroop and yet not all
Paratroopers are entitled to receive the Combat
Infantry Badge (CIB).
2nd Lt Stewart was
promoted from Assistant Executive Officer to
His MOS was changed to 1512 (Airborne Infantry Unit
The difference is the Arm of Service on the Morning
Reports. All 82nd Abn Div Soldiers were Airborne,
not all were Infantry nor were all Paratroopers
Infantry either. Some of the Paratroopers were
Artillery and some were Corps of Engineers (CE) which means they
didn’t meet the criteria for the Combat Infantry
Badge (another criteria is the General Order (GO)
for the Combat Infantry Badge).
Only the Infantry would be
eligible to receive the Combat Infantry Badge. That
also means the Infantry including Infantry
Paratroopers would be given, in 1962, the Bronze Star
Medal as well.
The Paratrooper (Field Artillery and Corps of
Engineers) did not meet the
criteria for the Combat Infantry Badge which also
means they were not eligible for the 1962 Bronze
In 1944 the MOS was not part of
the Combat Infantry Badge criteria. This changed in
1961 to include the MOS along with the Arm of
Service. The third criteria was at the end of
hostilities a Soldier is not eligible to receive the CIB. Even if transferred to an Infantry Unit but
after 8 May 1945 they no longer met the criteria for the CIB.
2nd Lt Stewart’s and
Private Streicher (spelled Striker on the 507th
Prcht Inf Morning Report)
 both jumped into Normandy
with the 507th Prcht Inf on 6 June 1944.
Both of their Arm of Service and MOS were still
Field Artillery not Infantry which means they were
not eligible to receive the Combat Infantry Badge
but they were eligible to wear the Jump Wings as
they had graduated from Parachute School either back
in 1942 at Ft. Benning or in England in 1944. They
would have also worn one star with their Jump Wings
after jumping into Normandy.
You can graduate from Parachute
School and still not be in a Paratroop/Infantry
Unit. The 377th Prcht Field Artillery
Battalion (377th Prcht FA Bn) was
Paratroop but once again wasn't eligible for the
Combat Infantry Badge. Back in 1942 some of the men
from the 320th Gli FA Bn went though
Parachute School. 2nd Lt Stewart’s and
Private Streicher were the only members of the 320th
FA Bn Soldiers to Jump into Normandy.
The rest of the 320th Gli FA Bn came in
by Glider on 6 June 1944.
The advance party came in 0405 and the main body
came in 19 hours later by Glider.
2nd Lt Stewart was
wounded on 4 July 1944 while a Spotter for the 325th
Gli Inf 1st Bn.
He was hit by artillery fire in the head and died 2
2nd Lt Stewart was promoted on 8 July
1944 to 1st Lt.
Because of his death on 4 July 1944 it was later
rescinded. On 2nd Lt Jesse E. Stewart’s
Hospital Admission Card it has him in the Hospital
for 1 days and 1 day in an Aid Station before his
death yet on the Headstone it has his death as 4
July 1944 the day he was wounded not 6 July 1944 his
actual date of death.
Back to the Plumley article;
The next Morning Report in July
of 1944 shows Cpl Plumley going on furlough again
for 5 days after Normandy.
The next campaign was Market Garden for Btry B of
the 320th Gli FA Bn.
They landed 18 September 1944 and Cpl Plumley was
wounded the same day.
The Hospital Card shows the length and type of wound
from Market Garden.
Plumley was in Btry B 320th Gli
FA Bn 82nd Abn Div from 4 April 1942 to
23 June 1945 as it shows him promoted to
Sgt 6 weeks after the end of hostilities in Europe
and transferring out of Btry B.
Plumley and the 320th Gli FA Bn
were entitled to the following Campaign Battle
(The 320th Gli FA Bn, 325th
Gli Inf and Co A 307th Abn Engr Bn (C)
received credit for Sicily even though they didn’t
participate in that campaign since they were in
Below are the awards Command
Sergeant Major (CSM) Plumley are entitled.
(Awards worn by CSM Plumey in picture taken 10 May
2010 at West Point, NY Left Chest then Right Chest.
Badge - COMBAT INFANTRYMAN BADGE
(Vietnam) (It shows three, St. Louis and the Army
says two CIBs, but Plumley wasn't in
Korea during the war years, and didn't meet the
criteria for a
WWII CIB so what is the second one for?)
Row 1 - (A) The LEGION OF MERIT (Between August 1973
to December 1974) (Ft. Benning, GA)
(B) SILVER STAR
Medal W/BRONZE OAK LEAF CLUSTER (Vietnam) (The
Silver Star Medal should be in front of The Legion
Row 2 - (A) BRONZE STAR MEDAL
W/BRONZE OAK LEAF CLUSTER & LETTER “V” DEVICE (Shows
two, meets the criteria for 2 Bronze Star
Medal and that is based on the 1962 criteria for
Meritorious, not Valor and the 1966 Bronze Star
Medal for Meritorious Service.) (None for Valor)
(B) AIR MEDAL W/l SILVER & 3 BRONZE OAK LEAF
CLUSTERS (WWII & Vietnam)
Row 3 - (A) ARMY COMMENDATION MEDAL W/3 BRONZE OAK
LEAF CLUSTERS (Clusters not shown on 2010 rack)
(B) PURPLE HEART W/BRONZE OAK LEAF
CLUSTER (WWII & Vietnam )
(C) GOOD CONDUCT MEDALS (8) (Career)
Row 4 - (A) American Defense Service Medal
(1939-1941) (didn't join until 1942, doesn't meet
(B) AMERICAN THEATER RIBBON (WWII) (NARA Award
wrong, should say American Campaign Medal)
(C) EUROPEAN-AFRICAN-MIDDLE EASTERN CAMPAIGN MEDALW/l SILVER & 1 BRONZE (BATTLE STARS)
(WWII) (Shows 2 Bronze Battle Star, should only be
one or does Africa Campaign count?) (Award
of Bronze service arrowhead shown on Ribbon
but not on Awards Listing. Plumley is entitled
to both the Normandy and Holland Arrowheads, but
could only wear one on Ribbon)
(D) WORLD WAR II VICTORY MEDAL
Row 5 - (A) ARMY OCCUPATION MEDAL W/GERMANY CLASP
(B) NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE MEDAL W/BRONZE OAK LEAF
CLUSTER (Korea & Vietnam) (Active Duty Personal
stationed anywhere in the world) (once for
Korea and once for Vietnam)
(C) VIETNAM SERVICE MEDAL W/l SILVER & 3 BRONZE
STARS (Vietnam) (Missing Silver Battle Star on
ARMED FORCES EXPEDITIONARY MEDAL (Vietnam)
Row 6 - (A) FRENCH FOURRAGERE GUERRE W/PALM (WWII)
(Plumley isn't allowed to wear the Ribbon as this is
a Unit Award to be worn as a Lanyard)
(B) BELGIUM FOURRAGERE (WWII) (Plumley isn't allowed
to wear the Ribbon as this is a Unit Award to be
worn as a Lanyard)
(C) REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM GALLANTRY CROSS W/GOLD STAR
(Star goes on Row 6 for Soldier and Palm goes on
Right Chest as it is Unit Award)
(D) REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM CAMPAIGN MEDAL W/l 960
Badge - SENIOR PARACHUTIST BADGE (Listed wrong
Badge - REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM PARACHUTIST BADGE
Row 1 - (A) REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM GALLANTRY CROSS
(B) PRESIDENTIAL UNIT CITATION (Plumley has two Oak
Leaf Cluster but none on Awards list. This
DISTINGUISHED UNIT BADGE became the PRESIDENTIAL
UNIT CITATION first means that the PRESIDENTIAL UNIT
CITATION was the first Oak
Leaf cluster, second unknown checking with St. Louis,
Combat Ready Infantry Cord (Blue) on Right Shoulder
Right Sleeve - OVERSEAS SERVICE BARS (8) (Career)
(Plumley didn't wear them in 2010 Picture)
Left Sleeve - SERVICE STRIPES (9) (Career) (Plumley
was Service on both sides) (9 Total as he was just
short of 30 years)
Not shown on Decorations and Awards in May of 2010
Glider Badge (with two STars) (WWII)
FRENCH FOURRAGERE GUERRE W/PALM (WWII)
NETHERLAND ORANGE LANYARD (WWII)
BELGIUM FOURRAGERE (WWII)
CSM Plumley is also entitled to the The Korea
Defense Service Medal as he served their in 1972.
CSM Plumley's family just needs to request The Korea
Defense Service Medal to receive that Award.
(in order of appearance)
AD (Active Duty)
ASN (Army Serial Number)
Btry B (Battery B)
320th FA Bn (320th
Field Artillery Battalion)
82nd Inf Div (82nd
Pfc (Private First Class)
Military Occupational Specialty
T5 (Technician 5th Grade)
82nd Abn Div (82nd
320th Gli FA Bn
(320th Glider Field Artillery Battalion)
325 Gli Inf (325th
Co A (Company A)
307th Abn Engr Bn
(C) (307th Airborne Engineer Battalion
2nd Lt (Second
CIB (Combat Infantry Badge)
CE (Corps of Engineers)
GO (General Order)
1st Lt (First
1st Bn (First
CSM (Command Sergeant Major)
What does all this mean? It
means Command Sergeant Major (CSM) Plumley had a distinguished career in the
U.S. Army. Up until the movie came out about his
time in Vietnam he wasn’t know widely outside of the
men who served with and under him.
The above records are from St.
Louis, MO NARA
and from Morning Reports which both came from the
When I spoke with him in July
of 2011 he never claimed to have jumped out of an
airplane in combat in WWII or any other wars. He
did talk briefly about that he jumped out of
helicopters but never an airplane in wartime.
CSM Plumley was in Korea, in
1972-73 never before that time period and he never
claimed to have been in Korea in the 1950's. When you look at his
overseas assignments it speaks for itself.
Look where Plumley was between 1951 through 26 February
1953, Ft. Campbell, Kentucky then he went to Germany. He returned home
three years later and then back again to Germany 2
years later for 2 ½ years.
CSM Plumley has the NATIONAL
DEFENSE SERVICE MEDAL W/BRONZE OAK LEAF CLUSTER
(once for Vietnam and once for Korea). The Korean
one was for any Soldier on Active Duty during the Korean
War. If you were in
Germany, Alaska or anywhere else in the world that
award was given out. The other one was for Vietnam
and he was in country twice
St. Louis NARA needs to correct
the CIB and Bronze Star Medal issues and they have
named some of the Awards wrong and CSM Plumley have
Awards on his Rack that St. Louis and the Army don't have on
Decorations and Awards.
There are people trying to
defend both Galloway and Wikipedia and when
confronted with the documentation they have no
answer. Wikipedia in this case is mostly
wrong with whomever has CSM Plumley's Military
Records including Awards & Decorations.
The movie We Were Soldiers Once... is a great
movie but only a movie.
Action Report for the Battle of la Drang
Galloway’s Obituary for Mr. Plumley on HistoryNet
was in error on many points including that
Plumley was entitled to one CIB, not three and
he never jumped in WWII and wasn't in Korea
Brian N. Siddall
September 8, 2015
 Interview by Author
Brian N. Siddall with Basil L. Plumley
7/20/2011 via phone number 706-682-****
Plumley Update to the 2015 Article
This is an update to my
September 8, 2015 article about CSM Plumley.
I can no longer defend someone like Plumley.
CSM Plumley never jumped in
combat in WWII, he was a Gliderman which is much more
dangerous that jumping out of a plane but he had to
lie about even that. Plumley was not in Korea until
1972 which means he didn’t jump in Korea in 1950 or
’51 (that is on Galloway not Plumley). All
Galloway had to do was look at Plumley's records to
see that. Plumley has
one Combat Infantryman's Badge not three.
These are called facts backed
up with documentation. That Galloway still believes
his own Obituary for Plumley proves that anything
Galloway has ever written must be looked at as
fiction as it pertains to his work with
Plumley at LZ X-Ray.
weren’t a few mistakes, by Plumley, they were willful
falsification. That Galloway still believes
Plumley’s lies is sad to say the least.
At the close of WWII Plumley
had the following Awards and Decorations (and
Citations) on his 53-55
& Service Record;
EAME (European, African, Middle Eastern) (1 Silver
Battle Star & 1 Bronze Battle Star)
Good Conduct Medal
The Bronze Arrowhead
Presidential Unit Citation
Netherland Orange Lanyard|
French Fourragere Guerre
4 Overseas Service Bars
2 Service Stripes|
(Expert Badge W/Carbine Bar)
American Campaign Medal
Army of Occupation Medal
World War II Victory Medal
The two Awards; Expert Badge
W/Carbine Bar & Parachute Badge listed on the 53-55
could not be verified when Plumley was called back
into the Active Service in January of 1951 (only
listed the Parachute Badge in 1951).
Plumley left Active Duty
September 23, 1945 and went
into the Reserves.
Plumley was called to active duty January 29, 1951.
Sections 21 Medals and Section 9
listed different Awards and Badges (below in RED)
than the 1945 53-55 (listed above). Sections 21/9
should have matched up with his 53-55 Discharge in
1945 but didn’t.
Section 21 for Parachute Badge
stated “not verified” and in Section 22 he had to
Yet in Section 9 it had him listed as Awarded the
Senior Parachutist Badge May 1945.
There were many problems with
that his records. First Plumley claimed that he
went to Parachute School in 1942 for 8 Weeks, but
only later in his military career did Plumley list
Plumley also claimed he went to the 82nd
Jump School in France between March 1, 1945 and
March 11, 1945.
Yet on his Service Record it was blank for Jump
Even if true he was not
entitled to Parachute Pay as he was in the 320th
Gli FA Bn which means he wasn’t on Jump Status.
Jump status is for a Parachute Unit and Plumley was
Glider. In Plumley’s Service Record between 1942
and 1945 and after he went to the 680th
Gli FA Bn someone wrote in a different print and
said he was entitled to Prcht Pay which wasn’t true.
You get paid one of the other (parachute or glider)
for payment, not both.
Plumley was Glider which meant
he was an 82nd Airborne Division Glider,
not an 82nd Airborne Division
Paratrooper. This was the first official
documentation showing that he had altering Army
documentation by writing this (& Prcht Pay) (1945).
When that was altered but it had to have been
between 1945 and 1951.
This is Plumley’s list in
January of 1951;
(Parachute Badge) (Not Verified)
World War II Victory Medal
Army of Occupation Medal
EAME (European, African, Middle Eastern) (8 Bronze
French Fourragere Guerre
Netherland Orange Lanyard
((Bronze Star Medal))
Presidential Unit Citation
Not listed now
The Bronze Arrowhead
Good Conduct Medal (Missing two Citations, 2 and 3)
4 Overseas Service Bars
2 Service Stripes
(Expert Badge W/Carbine Bar)
For the French Fourragere
Guerre in Section 21 it has him listed with a Palm.
That is an Individual Award and there are no Orders
to confirm that. In the same Section he has the
EAME (European, African, Middle Eastern) (1 Silver
Battle Star & 1 Bronze Battle Star) listed as 8
Battle Stars. That is wrong as well as he had 6,
not 8. Plumley’s Bronze Arrowhead was turned it
into The Bronze Star between his 1945 53-55 and his
1951 Enlistment record. Later Plumley would take
the Silver Battle Star and turn that into a Silver
Parachutist: served on jump status with an airborne unit
or other organization authorized parachutists for a
total of at least 24 months.) Plumley was
never eligible for the Senior Parachutist Badge.
Plumley was never on Jump Status for 24 months. The
Plumley lie started in the 1951 Enlistment just like
the Bronze Star Medal listed and French Fourragere
Guerre w/Palm listed above. He has Senior
Parachute Badge and that was impossible as mentioned
many times he was in a Glider Unit his entire time
between 1942 and 1948.
The biggest lie is that he had
the CIB (Combat Infantryman’s Badge) listed in
and it said it came from his WWII 53-55 file.
That was never listed under the original 53-55 or
This means Plumley altered his DD-214 when he went
on active duty in 1951 because it wasn’t on the
original 53-55. Plumley did not qualify because of
his Branch of Service was Artillery in WWII. The
CIB is only for Infantry, not any other Branch of
When Plumley retired December
31, 1974 on his DD 214 he had 2 CIBs listed not
three. When Plumley was interviewed for
the We Were Soldiers... book he said he had three CIBs by that time
(early 1990s). The Awards and Decorations Branch
has Plumley listed as one, not three CIBs.
Plumley didn’t meet the criteria for WWII and wasn’t
in Korea so his first and only CIB was in Vietnam.
Here is the other large lie;
Plumley was not in Korea until 1972.
Plumley was never there during the 1950-1953 time
period. He was in Ft. Campbell for those years
and then Germany.
Why Galloway didn’t do his due diligence for Plumley
I don’t know. In the back of his book he has
Plumley’s Awards and Decorations and quite a few of
them are not true either. I can only figure that
Galloway looked up to Plumley as a father figure.
The problem is that a large
part of Plumley’s information in the book weren’t
true as far as his Awards and Decorations. That
calls into question the entire book which is sad to
say. Even now Galloway could correct his mistake
but he refuses to do that it seems. To me this is a
huge insult, especially to the family members of the
men who were killed in Vietnam with the 7th
Cavalry 1st Bn in November of 1965.
All of the records produced for
this and my other Plumley article were from the NPRC
(National Personnel Record Center) and the HRC ADC
(Human Resources Command and the Awards and
Decorations Branch) along with Morning Reports from
NARA at St. Louis.
It’s been a while but
this one is very important. Plumley was a man who
served with the 82nd Abn Div in WWII and
with the 1st Cav Div in Vietnam. He was
prominently mentioned in both the book and movie
adaptation for We Were Soldiers Once in 1992/2002.
Paratroopers look up to him because he told the
world he had 5 Combat Jumps between WWII and Korea.
He had none, zero, nothing. As mentioned in the
previous article he was a Glider Man in WWII and
wasn’t in Korea at all until 20 years after the
His Headstone at Ft. Benning is
His Headstone should read Silver Star & Bronze Star
with OLC. He has one Silver Star
Medal & two Bronze Star Medals, (none for Valor).
If a family members can substantiate other Awards
please step forward and contact the Awards and
Galloway is just as guilty in
his own way. If he had done his due diligence none
of this would have happened. Instead he played up
Plumley in the book and especially in the movie.
General Moore took Plumley at
his word as Plumley had the CIB on his chest before
the Vietnam deployment. The one thing I can’t
figure out is Plumley had 3 CIB’s on his chest not
two. Lt Col Moore (at that time) say the one CIB
and that he got his second (in his mind) after the
October 1965 battle but never asked Plumley later in
life where the “3rd” CIB came from. We
will never know it seems.
General Moore in the After Action Reports and the IA
DRANG VALLEY OPERATION
has Plumley mentioned how many times? Once at
the beginning of the After Action Report by Lt Col
Moore. Moore mentions different Officers and
NCOs in the After Action Report but never mentions
Plumley received the Silver
Star Medal for what he did and it was important.
But that wasn’t enough for someone like Plumley.
Plumley had to build himself up even more. For
Plumley to be seen wearing the Combat Infantryman’s
Badge with the 3 CIB Badge at West Point in 2010 was
Plumley knew what he was doing and didn’t care at
I tried to defend Plumley but
after reading the original Awards and Decorations
and Personnel Records for him I now know what he
really was. He’s Manoian but more savvy by far than
Manoian. Plumley was able to dupe the world for
years but not anymore. If a few people still love
Plumley after reading the documentation then you are
part of the problem in the world today.
Remember Plumley even lied on
his Reserve intake it seems. He wrote on his Arm of
Service, Infantry (Para-Troops).
Plumley was neither Infantry (Artillery) nor
Brian N. Siddall
November 25, 2015
The Last Nail
in the Coffin of the Fake Plumley
Bayonet is the Fort Benning Newspaper and the
front page on April 23, 1965 it shows Plumley
wearing only one CIB, not two. This clearly shows
he was not in Korea during the war years. If you
look in the picture of his awards and decorations he
had no Korea awards at all, none in the April 1965
picture. The first picture is the full page, then
two close-ups. You can clearly see one CIB. End of
the story for the Plumley Lovers who believe in
movies and not records.
Forget for a second Plumley
wasn’t allowed to wear even the one in 1965. Worse,
in the 2010 picture taken at West Point, Plumley is
wearing 3 CIBs. How can Plumley be a hero when he
was not in Korea until 1972 but wore three CIBs when
he was in two wars and allowed to wear only one CIB?
All Plumley had to do when the book came out in 1992
was to say he wasn’t in the Korea war or when the
movie came out and say the same thing, wasn’t in the
war and never jumped into combat as a paratrooper.
Below is a link showing another
CSM who went to Ft. Leavenworth after being
discovered as a fraud. Do you know the difference
between Plumley and CSM Crump? Crump was still in
the Army when exposed. Plumley was discovered after
the fact. That is the only difference. If Plumley
had been caught before leaving the Army he would
have been convicted just like CSM Crump.
Congress in 1956 decided to
protect people who committed fraud if they were
lucky enough to have separated from the service
before getting caught. Once someone leaves the
service (all branches) they can't investigate unless
the soldier themselves gives the ok to investigate.
This is because of 10 U.S. Code § 1552 - Correction
of military records that was created in 1956. Here
is the relevant sentence;
No correction may be made under
subsection (a)(1) unless the claimant (or the
claimant’s heir or legal representative)
This would be like a bank
robber who got away scot free but later the police
found proof of the crime. This means the police
would have to ask his permission before doing any
investigation. Of course in the real world that
wouldn’t happen but in the Army that is exactly what
There was no investigation into
CSM Plumley’s Awards and Decorations. The Army
can’t investigate unless the next of kin authorized
it and that hasn’t happened in the Plumley case.
The Army calls them discrepancies. That’s a nice
way of saying they know he committed fraud, but they
can’t review the records.
Here is the link to the CSM
Crump who was the head NCO at Walter Reed Army
Medical Center in Washington, D.C. The position of
CSM gives them access to everyone’s records in a
unit at that level. Plumley’s fake awards happened
when? Right after Plumley became the CSM of the 3rd
Brigade in Vietnam. Plumley was demoted after he
left Vietnam and lost his position as a CSM at
Brigade/Regimental level. Plumley went back down to
Battalion level and never rose again to Brigade
Level of authority.
Why people worship Plumley and
Galloway I will never understand. Instead of
celebrating real heroes they look at Plumley and say
he is what a soldier should be. That means that
Plumley lovers look to a fake hero and not to men
and women who still die to this day overseas. Why
honor a real hero when you can worship an idolatry
January 5, 2017
Update to the Nail in the
(This is an email I received
last night) (all
documents listed below are here)
I received an email last night January 19, 2017,
where you stated this;
he continues to overlook is that Plumley served in
Korea in the early 70’s. He could have been awarded
the third CIB there. Unfortunately, we will never
know since the records are incomplete”.
I will give you the benefit of doubt about the
statement above. Plumley’s records including his
service in 1972-73 while in Korea are complete.
(All records can be found at the top of the original
Attached (on pages one thru nine) once again is the
regulations for the Combat Infantryman Badge and a
complete record of his service from day one in 1942
Page one from the May 1944 Circular for the
eligibility for the CIB and that it is restricted to
being in an assigned regiment or below, not
Page two is the cover sheet for the current Army
Regulation 600–8–22 for the Award of the CIB. On
page three (page 96 in the regulations) highlighted
in red shows the same eligibility for the CIB,
assigned to an infantry unit, not attached.
Plumley was never assigned or for that matter
attached to a an infantry regiment in WWII. He was
in the 320th Gli FA Bn from start to
finish. If you look at page nine of the records I
sent to you it shows every day where Plumley was
from the day he joined to the day he left the Army
on December 31, 1974. It also shows the units he
Plumley was in WWII but was never qualified to wear
the CIB as he was in an Artillery Arm of Service not
Infantry. Attached on page six it shows an Arm of
Service for an infantryman. On pages seven it shows
an Arm of Service for an Artilleryman. Page eight
shows that Plumley was in an Artilleryman Arm of
Service not Infantry. So there was no CIB for
Plumley in WWII.
In the second part of your email from last night you
say that “we will never know as the records are
incomplete”. That is far from the truth. Once
again look to page nine of my attached documents and
it shows where he was from day to the day Plumley
Now onto the Korea war and where Plumley was.
Plumley was in Ft. Campbell and then Germany during
that time period, never in Korea until 1972. Once
again referrer to the records on page nine that
shows where Plumley was for his entire career in the
Army so Plumley still isn’t qualified to wear a CIB.
Now comes Plumley and that he did receive the CIB
for his time in there. Remember this was Plumley’s
first CIB that met the criteria for that award. Yet
he was wearing a CIB in the April 1965 picture in
the Bayonet newspaper. His first CIB was in October
of 1965. So no doubt that he was wearing an award
he was not entitled to. What is now thought of as
Stolen Valor. Of all the awards wearing a CIB when
not entitled is the worst of all the Stolen Valor
Let’s now move ahead to Plumley’s time in Korea
between 1972 and 1973. Yes he was in Korean and was
on the DMZ. Once again your claim that “we will
never know” is wrong on its face. But here is the
rub. Please refer to page four (page 97 in the
regulations) highlighted first in red, WWII and
Plumley did not meet the criteria for the CIB as he
wasn’t in the infantry. Then in green is the Korea
conflict and once again Plumley did not meet the
criteria as he wasn’t in that conflict at all.
Highlighted in purple is the time period for
receiving a CIB. That goes from 2 March 1961 to 10
March 1995. This is all inclusive (please see page
five (page 97 in the regulations) in red). On page
four (page 96 in the regulations) you in your email
referenced that. But what you didn’t do was to read
the next page that states it is all inclusive
(please see page five (page 97 in the regulations)
This means a soldier can only receive one CIB for
the time period of the Vietnam time between 2 March
1961 to 10 March 1995. You can only receive one CIB
for all of those conflicts. That would be the same
for WWII as an example. If someone received a CIB
while in the European Theater of Operation and then
went to the Pacific Theater of Operations you would
only be entitled to one CIB.
So your entire email from last night (January 19,
2017) was incorrect. It shows clearly that Plumley
was entitled to one CIB for his entire career and is
backed up with this thing called documentation as
opposed to your vague “well we’ll never know” line.
Why people are so fixated on a fraud like Plumley I
can only assume they think a movie from Hollywood is
a documentary when in fact it’s just a movie. Here
is a link to the CBS Report about Ia Drang in 1966.
Why the 1st Cavalry doesn’t honor a real
soldier who died there and is buried at Benning I
will never know. It’s sad that Plumley is buried in
the same Cemetery as real heroes.
January 20, 2017
And A Taste of Plumley Lovers
This person Damon Suiter shows
how dumb Plumley lovers are. Attached is his
message via Facebook back in May of 2016. These
people look at a movie and say it must be real, it’s
They always come up with
excuses for Plumley, always. This Damon Suiter is a
Facebook stalker. He even stalks people through
Groups like TBI Survivors and Caregivers Support
Group. It’s obvious he has neurological problems.
That still doesn’t excuse his
message. He and the other ilk look at Plumley like
a father figure, a lying father figure but still a
Attached is the documentation that refutes his
assertions about his 3 CIB Awards. First Suiter
said since he was a Scout that made him infantry.
No, in WWII the MOS had nothing to do with the CIB
qualifications. You had to be assigned to an
Infantry Regiment or below. (page 8 of the
accompanying documentation for the 1944 circular).
Now the MOS is part of receiving the CIB but even
then you have to be assigned to an infantry unit
(pages 9 & 10). Please read pages 11 through 21 of
the accompanying documentation. Page 11 shows an
infantry unit above Arm of Service. Pages 12-21
show other various units (CE (Engineer), FA (Field
Artillery), MD (Medical) etc.
The only people who receive the
CIB is Infantry, none of the other branches, hence
the name CIB (Combat Infantryman’s Badge). Suiter
doesn’t seem to comprehend this. It’s in black and
white (pages 29-31).
“The Last Nail in the Coffin of
the Fake Plumley” article attached to this shows two
things, one he wasn’t allowed to even wear one CIB
in 1965. Plumley wasn’t wearing two at that time
because he was not in Korea until 1972.
On to Suiter’s “The Army’s
records are terrible”. The Army records for Plumley
are perfect for his records of assignments. From
the day Plumley joined the Army until the day he
retired it shows here he was (page 7). There are no
missing dates there. It clearly shows he was in Ft.
Campbell during the time he claims he was in Korea.
Plumley never jumped in combat in WWII as he was a
glider rider and wasn’t in Korea during the war
Plumley lovers always say leave
a dead liar alone. Sure, lets leave Hitler alone
too as he’s dead now. Facts are facts and Plumley
lied since 1992 when the book came out. He and
Galloway are two peas in a pod. Now that people are
going after Galloway they say “why are you picking
on an old man like Galloway”? If people go after
their fake heroes they get all bent out of shape.
These dumb people everywhere these days.
It’s obvious that this Suiter
has issues with reading comprehension. Suiter
hasn’t read the actually documentation at all. His
writing is at the level of an 8th grader
as well it seems.
Plumley is only a hero in the
movies, not in real life. Most people have read all
of the documentation and know how to comprehend what
they read. Someone like Suiter will never be able
to believe that Plumley is a liar. Jesus could show
up and tell Plumley Lovers that he is a liar and he
would say “Jesus, I love you but you’re wrong about
Plumley”. I think what really bothers these people
are the fact that they joined the service after
reading/seeing the book/movie. Even today people
see the book and join the service. They don’t want
to believe they were sold a pack of lies. How many
soldiers are dead because they bought into the We
Were Soldiers Once book/movie?
Attached to the Suiter message
are some of the
“more out there” people on FB (last 3 pages)
including Nichole (Nicki Jo) Cordero who threatened
to have me attacked and Albert Macias who posted
this to a daughter of a WWII veteran. It says a lot
about those people as well.
March 8, 2017